madam secretary, you told the senate this morning the children of the tax around 4 p.m. on that day, and you're involved widely in the coordinator response which included the department of defense at the white house but did not speak to the president until later that evening. when did you talk to the president? >> two things. on a first lady made, carbon, the arb disagreed with that and did find that budget issues were asked to speak she testified under oath. >> that's why have an independent group like arb. that's why he was created to look at everything. so i think -- >> everybody has their own -- >> i think it's important -- [talking over each other] >> what about when you saw the president? when did you see the president? >> i talked to the present at the end of the day, but i've been in constant communication with the national security advisor. i had been on secure videoconferences with high level officials in the white house, in the defense department -- >> she testified she had witnessed the death in real-time, the attack on a monitor. at any time did you see the